really, really interesting

[winterbadger]

http://www.livejournal.com/users/wayfairer/456769.html

It's a bit long, but it's worth the read.

What it doesn't explain to me maybe the many, many pages of discussion do, but I have to do *some* work), is... OK, if that's the way people think and they see Bush as a Christian man fighting the forces of evil, then I can see why they would vote for him. But what I still don't get is *why* they would see Bush as a good Christian man. Surely not just because he says so. And if it were just based on his actiosn, that would be entirely circular: we support him because he's X, eveen if he does what might seem like bad things, but we think he's X because he does good things... Is it because of who endorses him? I'm still missing something.

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[robbysmom.livejournal.com]

Now, see, that scares me, too. My partner is a minister (deacon of the Episcopal church), and she preaches-- and that would make her a preacher you suggest hunting down like a dog. (Not that I think dogs should be hunted per se, either.)

I can assure you that the religious left is no danger to anyone but perhaps themselves, because we are liked neither by the secular nor the religious right.

[beckon.livejournal.com]

It's easy sometimes to forget that what you write on the internet can easily go beyond your intended target and it's also easy to forget to moderate your language.

I don't have a particular issue with people of faith, nor the individuals who act as tenders of any particular faith.

But the type of people that are described in that posting. Scare the hell out of me and are by far the worse threat that I believe America faces as a nation. Because they will tear it apart in the absolute conviction of their own righteousness.

[robbysmom.livejournal.com]

I agree that the "religious right" that seeks (and clearly is seeking) political power is a great danger to the unity of the nation and, frankly, to the concept of "a church under God" itself. Historicaly, small communities of faith (focused on livign out their faith) have not been a particlaur problem for and with others; but powerful communtites and religious states or non-state actors who seek doctinaire religious unity within states (a number of popes, Holy Roman Emperors, AQ-- just to name a few off the top of my head. . .) clearly are and have been.