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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A campaign worker for President Bush (news - web sites) said on Thursday American workers unhappy with low-quality jobs should find new ones -- or pop a Prozac to make themselves feel better.

"Why don't they get new jobs if they're unhappy -- or go on Prozac?" said Susan Sheybani, an assistant to Bush campaign spokesman Terry Holt.

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Date: 2004-07-30 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] puabi.livejournal.com
I agree with her.

Why should it be a national crisis if they are unhappy with their jobs?

Date: 2004-07-30 06:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] puabi.livejournal.com
I agree that some of what what she said was insensitive and stupid -- especially the Prozac part. But there are plenty of opportunities in this country for people to attain skills and move on to better jobs. It's never so hopeless that they need the federal government to haul them out. I know you may well think this is a naive remark, and so it may be, but I still hold to it.

Glib, I know

Date: 2004-07-30 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] puabi.livejournal.com
I'm going to assume the single mother of 3 doesn't live in a vacuum. She has a family, friends, maybe a church. She can borrow money from these people; she can study at her local community college, take night classes. I am assuming she has skills for something. Maybe she is good with numbers; maybe she interracts well with people. Failing that: for all wounds, the ointment of time. Her kids will grow up, one way or another. Little Bobby, 14, can get a job cleaning pools or making french fries for fat greasy Americans. If Ms. Mother-of-3 can embroider nice handkerchiefs she can start her own internet business!

I know so little of Mr. Coalminer's situation...but let me assume that he doesn't live in a vacuum, either. He can quit his job. His wife can struggle to work for their upkeep while he tries to get skills for another job. Maybe he can apply for a job at the local DMV. Then he can stamp papers, straighten papers, make things difficult for poor people who only want to get their drivers' licenses.

Mr. Steel Worker... I don't know of any private sector programs that could help him the way you say... I know so little of his specific situation... I am quite ashamed. You win. But what will Sen--er, President Kerry do for him?

I am pretty unfamiliar with all of the situations you have listed, except for this last one: the non-English speaking workers. I see them everywhere. The kids at my church sometimes go around and give them donuts and coffee. I am sure that if they came to my church we might try to help them somehow. True, we would use this opportunity to ingratiate our religion with them. But we might also give them a place to live, offer them some work maybe; meet their family, offer babysitting. Most of the people at my church are rich people glutted on the fruits of their labor, but they have consciences.

I'm sorry for the subjectivity of my answers, but that's all I have to say for now.

Re: Glib, I know

Date: 2004-08-01 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selki.livejournal.com
Single-mother-of-three's family and friends probably don't have any resources to help her. If she goes to a church, it's probably strained to the breaking point. She doesn't have good enough light to make fancy little napkins without going blind, and there is no FedEx center or post office nearby for easy access to shipping. Little Bobby would have to take a two-hour bus ride (changing buses three times) to get to any houses with pools.

The coalminer's wife was already working to put food on the table (he was paying the rent). The DMV doesn't have a lot of turnover, nor do many of the other non-coal-mining jobs in their little town. Most people prefer working places where there's less chance of getting lung cancer.

Kerry's talked about jobs retraining programs Mr. Steelworker could use.

The libertarian myth of going it alone and pulling yourself up by the fingernails usually overlooks the support systems that are necessary for all but incredibly *exceptional* individuals to better themselves.

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